.Mac web gallery theme

ninaleechie

Joined: 2008-02-23
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Posted: Fri, 2008-03-21 03:47

I just installed svn on my host, what a pain, but worth it. Now it is just one command and I am updated. R38 mosaic looks much better on my site. The bugs with flipping vertical and horizontal images seem to be gone too. I think the thumbnails should be right justified, instead of close to the full size image. Just a thought. Nice work and thanks.

What's next?

 
erlis

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Posted: Fri, 2008-03-21 08:57
ninaleechie wrote:
I just installed svn on my host, what a pain, but worth it. Now it is just one command and I am updated. R38 mosaic looks much better on my site. The bugs with flipping vertical and horizontal images seem to be gone too. I think the thumbnails should be right justified, instead of close to the full size image. Just a thought. Nice work and thanks.

What's next?

As you can see I'm working on carousel right now.. Just a couple of changes left for RC2!

I'll see if it's possible to right justify images..

My suggestion is to use square thumbnails (the plugin) to make the skimming work better.

 
erlis

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Posted: Fri, 2008-03-21 12:16

I now have all my whanted features working (R39) just need to update the styles to get a nice clean look for my different views.

In my eyes Grid and Mosaic are done (perhaps the thumbs should be aligned a bit nicer and image title+desc should be displayed below image in Mosaic view). But for "image click", Slideshow and Carousel view the themplate needs to be updated. For this I need your help, new images (jacobdeane can you fix??), suggestions and so on. As I stated before I'm really bad in style sheets but I'll try. The most important pictures are the one for image click and hence slideshow view. E.g. close, play, next, prev, info and so on.

When this views are finished I believe we could have a first release.

My ToDo later on will be implementing reflections (not as easy as I guessed). And a total rewrite for of the javascripts to enforce stability, speed and concistency (e.g. sometimes keyboard shourtcuts works and sometimes they don't).

 
dmolavi
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Posted: Fri, 2008-03-21 12:24

erlis-
for the reflections, take a look at the imageflow site i posted above. he's got it working wonderfully there, both for dark and light backgrounds.

how do you plan on dealing w/ item counts?

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erlis

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Posted: Fri, 2008-03-21 14:27
dmolavi wrote:
erlis-
for the reflections, take a look at the imageflow site i posted above. he's got it working wonderfully there, both for dark and light backgrounds.

how do you plan on dealing w/ item counts?

The reflection solution found at the image flow page is a no go for us, he generates the images with reflections server-side, which I don't wants to do The page is heavy as it is without loading duplicate images and thumbs. (Or perhaps just loading the reflection should work).

I'm not planning to solve item counts.. It's a matter of interaction, if you like my theme and all it's preloading of images or if you would like for the whole page to redraw on every click.. Perhaps I have miss understood the item count, if it's increased when you download a image it'll never work with my theme, but if it's only increased when you visit the "photo page" then perhaps there are hope. How would you like to have it implemented (when should gallery count it as a view)?

 
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Posted: Fri, 2008-03-21 15:05

It's only incremented when you visit the item's page. it should be automatically handled by the item view framework in G2. valiant, any thoughts?

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erlis

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Posted: Fri, 2008-03-21 15:41
dmolavi wrote:
It's only incremented when you visit the item's page. it should be automatically handled by the item view framework in G2. valiant, any thoughts?

Ok, then it would be possible to do a Ajax request to the photo page where I'm using lytescript now (i.e. when you click on a thumb). Is that ok?

valiant?

 
dmolavi
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Posted: Fri, 2008-03-21 18:15

hey, i see you're using imageflow for the carousel. the author (when i asked him about the GPL releasability of his code) asked that you put his name and a link to his site (http://imageflow.finnrudolph.de/) somewhere.

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valiant

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Posted: Sat, 2008-03-22 14:59

@server-side generation of reflection images:
i'm not too fond of generating reflection-images on the server-side. if you do it online, it'd drive the server load up. if you store the reflection images, it's a lot of additional bookkeeping and more file transfers. but that's sure a better solution than online (on the fly) generation of reflections for each request.

anyway, if there's no other solution (flash, somewhat poorer results with javascript reflections), then why not...

@image view counts:
image views are counted in core.ShowItem. so you won't trigger an image view increment by downloading an image.

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dmolavi
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Posted: Tue, 2008-03-25 11:28

erlis-
if you'd like, let one of us know and we can push this to the gallery-contrib SVN repository on SourceForge.

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erlis

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Posted: Thu, 2008-03-27 08:03

dmolavi: yes, that would perhaps be better than using trac.cz.. Would I have write access to that then :) Is it possible to preserve the changes in the current repos (http://trac.cz/svn/pear).

 
jacobdeane

Joined: 2008-01-22
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Posted: Mon, 2008-03-31 08:47

erlis

what images do you need?

From what i can see, you want some controls for the carousel view - something like the apple version but with left and right skip buttons rather than a play button http://gallery.mac.com/emily_parker#100550&bgcolor=black&view=carouseljs&sel=2

and you could do with some better images for the slideshow view!

have you thought about implementing the collapsable top bar - like the apple site? - I think i did the images for that!

Looking awesome on your test site - must download the latest svn and update mine!

EDIT: http://gallery.jdpictures.co.uk/ has been updated!

few errors with the carousel view - the first album viewed in carousel looks fanastic, then any others afterwards go a bit haywire!! - will see if your test gallery does the same...

also, the main gallery page takes a long time to load - downloading 400 thumbs!! is there a way to reduce the number of thumbs in the skim to say 10? This would dramatically decrease the load time!

 
erlis

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Posted: Tue, 2008-04-01 07:56
jacobdeane wrote:
erlis

what images do you need?

and you could do with some better images for the slideshow view!

have you thought about implementing the collapsable top bar - like the apple site? - I think i did the images for that!

also, the main gallery page takes a long time to load - downloading 400 thumbs!! is there a way to reduce the number of thumbs in the skim to say 10? This would dramatically decrease the load time!

Well I need the images in "Image click view" and Slideshow i.e. where I'm currently are using lytescript. (I'm on my way to rewrite the whole lytescript to suite our needs better).

No, I have not any plans for implementing the collapsable bar, I don't see the use for it. If you have suggestions on how to show it let me know.

To change the skimming look in navigatorMicroThumbs.tpl for {assign var="maxMicroThumbs" value=50} and change value to 10. This should be configured in the config page, but I've forgotten it.

The reason your carousel goes hay-wire is that the images haven't been preloaded when you click on the carousel button, if you go-back to grid and then into carousel again it should work..

I've forgotten to add slider.png to the svn before so do an update to have the location for the carousel aswell.

Edit: navigatorMicroThumbs.tpl is not used anymore so I've updated the theme.inc (where the preloading of skimming thumbs are made). Latest svn (R47) should work now.

 
ninaleechie

Joined: 2008-02-23
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Posted: Fri, 2008-04-11 01:07

I can not get R47 to work on my gallery. I get an error about something being wrong with the theme. If I change the theme to something that works like Ajax it is ok. As long as I have the pear directory in my themes directory, it totally messes up the themes and plugins controls in Site Admin. Any thoughts.

 
erlis

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Posted: Fri, 2008-04-11 05:56
ninaleechie wrote:
I can not get R47 to work on my gallery. I get an error about something being wrong with the theme. If I change the theme to something that works like Ajax it is ok. As long as I have the pear directory in my themes directory, it totally messes up the themes and plugins controls in Site Admin. Any thoughts.

What is being wrong? It's a bit hard to try to help you with your description, I don't know why it's not working.. Perhaps you haven't upgraded it..

Use some other theme as default theme -> go to the plugin page -> press the upgrade link next to pear and everything should be fine..

/F

 
delavitoune

Joined: 2008-04-10
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Posted: Fri, 2008-04-11 13:32

Hello,

First, I wanted to congratulate you for the great job you have done creating .Pear ! I am using it on my gallery, and was wondering if there was a way to improve the way it shows under IE, or, if it is not possible, apply another theme when detecting Internet Explorer ... do you know if gallery could permit this ?

Thanks

 
erlis

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Posted: Fri, 2008-04-11 13:36

What kind of flaws do you have using IE (and what version are you using)?

Well it should be possible to detect and react however this is done in Java-script hence the solution is not that easy. Perhaps do a redirect to firefox download page would be a sweet solution..

Most of the problems with IE is that M$ does not follow standards.

 
delavitoune

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Posted: Fri, 2008-04-11 19:00

Hi,

That is what I expected ... The problems come from IE6 (probably a bad CSS and / or HTML standard implementation within the browser ...). I will encourage my visitors to download Firefox.

Thanks again,

Julien

 
erlis

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Posted: Fri, 2008-04-11 19:37

Could you be more specific, what exactly does not work? Then perhaps I could find and "correct" it. Yes, it's most likely CSS (I'm just guessing when it comes to CSS coding :))

Does anyone know a good IE compilable CSS editor?

 
delavitoune

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Posted: Fri, 2008-04-11 19:54

Let's try to :
1. The icon background is grey [whereas its transparent on Firefo]
2. The zoom slider has no effect [thumbs are shown with the highest factor]
3. The mosaic view does not work [nothing happens when I click on the mosaic icon]
4. When I click on the carousel or on the slideshow icon, I only get a black screen with the following error :

Line : 237
Car : 3
Error : 'undefined' is null or is not an object
Code 0

I hope this shall help you ...

 
erlis

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Posted: Fri, 2008-04-11 20:21

Dammit, thought I've fixed those errors (at-least no:2)..

I'm going to rewrite the whole slide-show view (together with the image click view).

What do you mean by icon background? What icon?

I've just tested it in Parallels (running XP Pro IE 7.0) and to me most of the things you mention will be removed as soon I get some new icons.. However there are still some outlines errors for the slider and so on.. But I can't identify where they are originated from.. Perhaps I'm using the slider the wrong way..

Check out my devel page at http://erlis.se/~erlis/gallery/gallery2/main.php.

 
delavitoune

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Posted: Sat, 2008-04-12 11:25

Hi Erlis,

The problem with the icon background is relative to the transparancy of the icon. With IE6, the border of the icons is white, rather than transparent.

Tell me if I can help you furthermore,

Julien

 
erlis

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Posted: Sat, 2008-04-12 14:02

Julien: I've updated some of the issues, can you please take a screen-shot of the icon backgound issue and perhaps I can solve that too.

 
ninaleechie

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Posted: Sun, 2008-04-13 01:52

I think this has to do with IE6 and .png files with transparent background. There is a little bit of Java to work around this. Do a search for pngfix.js. It does something with the Microsoft Alpha Image Loader. It is a common problem. If you can not find it, I can post the code. It is only 15 lines.

 
erlis

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Posted: Sun, 2008-04-13 08:50

Shit how crappy IE 6 is (just downgraded from IE7) and even using the "pngfix.js" solution the problems still exists (and all my overlays are not working either).

I'll however look in to it and try to fix it.

 
erlis

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Posted: Wed, 2008-04-16 06:11

I've tested a couple of different approaches, but none seems to work..

Perhaps I've have to do as apple are doing and have a separate css for the crappy IE browsers. For this I need to convert all my png's with transparency to gif's. But this seems to be a good approach.

 
delavitoune

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Posted: Thu, 2008-04-24 19:37

Hello Erlis,

I have downloaded the flash player module for gallery. It works great with the matrix theme, but not with .pear
As I understand, the .pear viewing applet (launched when we click on a photo) supports only photos. Do you know how I could enable it, or tweak it to view my videos ?

Thank you in advance,

Julien

 
cthrax
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Posted: Sat, 2008-04-26 18:33

Hi erlis,

I have some things that I want to get out of theme that it isn't quite doing and so I plan on modifying it for my own uses with your ok. I also want to contribute to the effort as part of that. However, I didn't want to impose my personal preferences on you, so could you PM me (or post a reply) so I could talk about what you have outstanding?

delavitoune: .pear isn't actually an applet, it's predominantly javascript and html/css. As to streaming movies into a client side viewer, it can be done (and may be!), but that would involve modifying the a third party tool (lytebox) to accommodate that. While that is doable it is most likely a feature for a version 2 (or 3!) release of the theme. It's not simple task to stream video asynchronously through javascript like that and there are core functionalities that take preference over that.

 
erlis

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Posted: Wed, 2008-04-30 06:21

I've sent a PM to you cthrax..

Otherwise we can discuss it here and perhaps get influences from other users aswell.

In RC2 we will no longer need lytebox, I've created a custom view with help from the code in lytebox for "Image click". I'm just waiting for new images from jacobdeane and then RC2 is done and it's time to make it really public :)

And yes I'll update so the image count will work as well (When an image is focused and we are using lytescript today I'll an ajax request to incremet the image count).

valiant: How do I submit a theme so it can be downloaded from the plugin/theme page in configuration mode of gallery?

 
ninaleechie

Joined: 2008-02-23
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Posted: Thu, 2008-05-08 00:07

Has the pear subversion directory been moved. It sounds like there have been some updates, but I still can only check out R47? Thank you.

 
erlis

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Posted: Thu, 2008-05-08 06:21

Yes, there are some updates. And yes R47 is the latest :).

The problem is that as in the first release I'm missing some images so I can't make the update available until those are fixed.

 
erlis

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Posted: Thu, 2008-05-22 06:13

New update R52 almost all features I whant is now implemented and i feel that we are close to a "final" release..

Please update from SVN or look at my devel page (http://erlis.se/~erlis/gallery/gallery2/main.php) and let me know if there exists anything that needs my attention..

What is left then?

* Fix for image count (will happen on image click)
* Nicer pictures in the single image view
* Code cleanup
* More configuration options (i.e. slideshow timeout)
* IE6 support (do we really need this?)
* Support for movies (a sample movie is needed)
* Layout refinement (what do we need to fix here? suggestions are approchiated)
* Reflections (yes, I'm going to give the reflections another try)

Have I forgotten anything?

 
delavitoune

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Posted: Thu, 2008-05-22 11:50

Hello Erlis, and once again, congratulation for your work on .pear !

I still have some issues playing movies with .pear :

I have tried uploding .flv (flash) .3gp (cellphones) and .mov movies. Gallery generates the thumbnails, but the best I get is a fixed thumbnail in .pear. Could you please tell me what kind of movies are compatible, and how to do to play them ?

Thanks a lot !

 
erlis

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Posted: Thu, 2008-05-22 11:59
delavitoune wrote:
I still have some issues playing movies with .pear :

I have tried uploding .flv (flash) .3gp (cellphones) and .mov movies. Gallery generates the thumbnails, but the best I get is a fixed thumbnail in .pear. Could you please tell me what kind of movies are compatible, and how to do to play them ?

Movies are unsupported :)

I've managed to find some movies that I've uploaded to my devel page, so I'll test this and perhaps solve the move issue this weekend.

 
erlis

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Posted: Fri, 2008-05-23 13:01

R53 have a patch to support Movies.

 
ninaleechie

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Posted: Thu, 2008-05-29 01:28

Looks very good. Issues that I see on my site and maybe the same on yours. In the carousel using firefox, images displayed in portrait mode overlap into the menu bar at the top. You can see it on one of your skiing pictures. Also, not so noticeable on your site, but clear on mine in the mosaic view. When I click on a thumbnail, the large image fades out and then back in, only it still has the original picture. Then after the full size image of the thumbnail is loaded, it quickly flips to that. Maybe it should wait until the entire image is loaded before it fades out and then in. It looks particularly buggy if you are viewing an image in landscape mode and then click on a thumbnail of an image in portrait mode. It fades out and then in with the original image, only the old image is displayed in portrait mode, so it looks all stretched and everything is skinny. Then after the appropriate image is finished loading, it quickly flips to that and everything is ok. It looks like a similar thing is happening in the slideshow as well.

Thanks for working on this.

 
ursulakis

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Posted: Thu, 2008-05-29 11:10

hi, i downloaded the theme, but when i tryed to make it active i got the folowing error:

Quote:
Look and Feel like Apples .Mac's gallery
Incompatible theme!
Core API Required: 7.10 (available: 7.3)
Theme API Required: 2.5 (available: 2.3)

can someone tell me what can i do to make this works?
Thanks,
Ursulakis

 
dmolavi
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Posted: Thu, 2008-05-29 11:21

ursulakis-
what version of G2 are you using? it's possible that the developer of this theme is running from a SVN snapshot and not from a release. if he is using a release, i'd recommend you upgrade to the latest release and try again.

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erlis

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Posted: Thu, 2008-05-29 12:31

ursulakis-
.Pear are developed in Gallery 2.2.3 and should work on all successors..
I'm not sure exactly what version you must have, but upgrade to atleast 2.2.3 and it'll work.

ninaleechie- I'm aware of the flaws with image flow, but haven't found a good solution. Is it only in FF you seee this problems?
The problem with mosaic click and slideshow seems a bit odd please send me a PM with a url to your site and I'll look into it. Are you running the latest SVN version?

 
cthrax
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Posted: Mon, 2008-06-02 14:32

Hi erlis,

The controls for the image browsing are fading out despite being clicked on by the mouse. If the mouse is moved constantly than it works just fine.

Thanks for all the good work.

 
FelixJ

Joined: 2008-06-03
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Posted: Tue, 2008-06-03 18:06

Hello

This theme looks really good.

I wonder if there is a quite stable version of this theme for the latest gallery script 2.2.4?

Thanks

 
Schled

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Posted: Sat, 2008-06-21 23:29

This theme does look great!

I will use it on my site once you are happy with it being finished and a regular theme package is available :)

 
erlis

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Posted: Fri, 2008-07-04 08:02

Well..

I've been quite off lately but I feel like it's time to wrap the .Pear theme up for a first public release..

I've tryed to summarize all of your requests in to tickets on the trac page (here) if you guys feel that something is missing or unclear please update or PM me this weekend and I will try to fix them all until the end of July.

 
Lui

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Posted: Fri, 2008-07-11 18:07

Hi!

I'm a newbie, but want to cooperate. Have you try using Reflection.js for the reflection in the mac theme?
It seem very easy to use.

http://cow.neondragon.net/stuff/reflection/

just my opinion.

Keep the good work, so far it looks great.. Waiting to see the end result...

 
erlis

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Posted: Mon, 2008-07-14 05:59
Lui wrote:
I'm a newbie, but want to cooperate. Have you try using Reflection.js for the reflection in the mac theme?
It seem very easy to use.

http://cow.neondragon.net/stuff/reflection/

Hi,

Yes I've been using Reflection.js. However it does not work together with the scaling images. But as soon as the bugs in trac are fixed I'm going to give Reflection.js a new go..

If you'll like to contribute please try to find all bugs in the current version and report them as a PM to me. (Also updated images would be appreciated)

 
FelixJ

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Posted: Wed, 2008-07-30 22:53

How is it going with the theme? :)

 
erlis

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Posted: Thu, 2008-07-31 06:48
FelixJ wrote:
How is it going with the theme? :)

I'm terrible sorry but the development are currently stalled..

It's been a couple of weeks with extremly nice weather hence I've don't been woring on it for a while.

But I promise that Release 1 will be done by the end of August (perhaps even next week).

 
zk7

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Posted: Thu, 2008-07-31 17:06

Great job on the theme erlis...cant wait for Release 1!

By the way, I tried checking out the latest svn revision, but I'm not able to access trac.cz. Has the repository been relocated?

 
erlis

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Posted: Thu, 2008-07-31 17:40

Seems like trac.cz is down..

Sorry, atleast I've got a local copy.. ;)

 
satish.gaikwad

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Posted: Thu, 2008-08-07 15:42

Hello Erlis,

Thanks for awesome gallery theme :). I am facing few issues with theme UI on internet explorer 7.
1) Display is messed up on password page to view password protected album.
2) Password protected albums link do not work by mouse click

I am using RC1.8 version, may be these issues are fixed in your current devel branch. Unfortunately trac.cz is down and I couldn't load your devel version from repository. Can you please upload it somewhere else if trac.cz don't have plans to appear soon? Since last one week I am waiting for trac.cz to appear but alas!

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