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mnt_schred
Joined: 2008-04-06
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Posted: Mon, 2013-09-02 14:39
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After five years of not using gallery I again installed it as my main photo gallery software. -No responsive template by default, ignoring mobile development and wider screens I'm afraid if these issues won't be given some attention and priority in the roadmap, Gallery3 will lose it's edge and become abandonware. |
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Other themes are available.
Yes it does. We've had JQuery all along and we even got flack for using that as well. It is being updated for the next version.
Similar to: http://codex.galleryproject.org/Gallery3:FAQ#Why_did_you_choose_Kohana.3F and Why doesn't Gallery 3 use the Smarty template engine? We can't please everybody.
We have one in development now as well. It was not our first choice in the beginning but it was a easy drop in as there was no other similar slideshow at the time. Developer resources are at a premium. Got any open source suggestions we could use?
That is fixed as well.
Sorry to here that progress for this free and open source project is not moving as fast as you desire.
Time and number of developers and volunteers is always an issue with open source projects. Care to contribute or find someone that can to help the speed and progress?
Dave
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If my assessment was incorrect, then I apologize. But after installing Gallery3 i've noticed almost no GUI improvements.
1) If there are better, more modern/responsive themes, why is the default then still Gallery Wind? Wouldn't it be more logical to supply a modern template out of the box? Most users will not be installing other templates. Which one would you reccomend?
2) I don't like smarty, so you won't hear me complain ;) But I'm glad I was wrong on this one
3) Good to hear that you are replacing cooliris. Maybe swipebox is an option? http://brutaldesign.github.io/swipebox/ It's tablet friendly (supports swipe gestures) and relatively easy to implement.
4) Are you sure? You mean by installing the 'movie tools' module?
Again, I was only speaking out in concern- not out of displeasure. I have great appreciation of this software and am using it in production!
And I can help you. My organisation can raise funds to help your development issues if you would like.
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I guess when I said "That is fixed as well." I should have said 'That is fixed as well in the next version', that is in development now, with an update just 5 days ago.
https://github.com/gallery/gallery3/commits/kohana_3
Great! If you can find a developer that can take those funds and help that would be great. Perhaps they could develop a theme that you would like as well as others.
The current developers are heads down on G3.1 and don't have time to work on a new theme and funds is not really a motivator for them. I'm sure you should be able to convince some other php/html/graphics developer to help out.
Dave
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Yes, I think from a 'commercial' perspective a new version of the wind theme, i.e. modern responsive, would be a nice addition I can give to the project.
I can certainly appreciate that this is not a interesting technical improvement on this project, but from a usage perspective this would greatly enhance the user experience. Because the template is what all the users will see.
I would like to make this subproject with the input of users, we could use a uservoice like app for that. I will make an mockup in a few weeks and show it to the community to get feedback.
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Looking forward to any progress you could help with. As Dave said, the core developers are deep in 3.1 at the moment, and themeing has never been a priority. With the updates coming in 3.1, I think we'll all breath a sigh of relief when it's out!
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Well, no one asked me, but my opinion: I'm glad Gallery is the way it is--including the default theme.
I like default themes to me somewhat "vanilla" as they (generally) offer the best starting points for customization. I hate having to sort through and pull out a bunch of unneeded code. (And yes, I almost always pull out most of the js.)
I also don't think it's necessary to include a bunch of "extras" to the default install; if you want them, they're there--just install the module(s) you need. (I do think more thought needs to be done to help new users quickly pinpoint some of the more common modules.)
The work being done on the slideshow module is leaps and bounds beyond what's there now (imo): http://galleryproject.org/node/111999
On top of that, I haven't seen many standalone solutions that come anywhere close to Gallery--especially not free ones.
Hopefully at some point I'll be able to contribute a few themes and I hope that you're able to follow through and do so as well, but I hope that "Wind" will remain included and activated by default.
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@tempg - I agree completely. The whole mantra of G3 was simplicity. This is why module and theme contributions are so helpful - start from simple, expand as desired.
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I think Gallery is fantastic as well, but the main theme is simple, but not modern. Look at the templates at http://html5up.net/ for instance. Because of their responsive nature, the tablet and smartphone layout is very practical.
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You're exactly correct, this is the intent of G3 'out of the box' - simple. This is why the themeing and modular capabilities are in place.
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Well, let me make something first and the criticals among you can judge it.
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I for one welcome any new themes, especially 'modern' looking and functioning ones. This is what makes the community great.
Thanks!
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@mnt_schred: Just to be clear: I (and the community, I'm sure) 1000000% welcome any contribution you can make (and I'm willing to help if there's a need and time allows):
My concern: making Gallery default to a more 'complex' theme; I agree that, perhaps, another theme could/should 'ship' with Gallery, but just not be activated as default. I didn't mean to derail the thread or to suggest that your contribution won't be warmly received.
EDIT: Report back if you get stuck anywhere with making the new theme work. (Also, if you haven't already, might want to check the Gallery roadmap; I think there are some script changes coming in 3.1--not sure that they'd affect your work, but might as well prepare for that with the new theme.)
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I think I will postpone this effort then until 3.1 is officially released. The proof of cocept I will develop seperately, focussing on UI. Then the template can be stripped of alle non-neccesary code.
What would be wonderfull, if two templates could be shipped. In the install wizzard, you can choose from the two templates. Still Wind beïng default, but this would lower the threshold for novice users to use a modern, responsive template.