Shutterfly affiliate program and Gallery

SamBeckett
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Posted: Sun, 2004-10-31 06:07

I'm guessing if we change referid in view_photo.php we could make some money.

<form name="sflyc4p" action="http://www.shutterfly.com/c4p/UpdateCart.jsp" method="post">
<input type=hidden name=addim value="1">
<input type=hidden name=protocol value="SFP,100">
<input type=hidden name=pid value="C4PP">
<input type=hidden name=psid value="GALL">
<input type=hidden name=referid value="gallery">
<input type=hidden name=returl value="this-gets-set-by-javascript-in-onClick">
<input type=hidden name=imraw-1 value="http:// ... /02112601_7.jpg">
<input type=hidden name=imrawheight-1 value="652">
<input type=hidden name=imrawwidth-1 value="500">
<input type=hidden name=imthumb-1 value="http:// ... /112601_7.thumb.jpg">
<input type=hidden name=imbkprnta-1 value=" ... ">
</form>

Now we just have to figure out how to get such a special account set up :P

 
SamBeckett
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Posted: Sun, 2004-10-31 06:09

We need to define what these are for:
pid
psid
referid

and how to get our own !

 
SamBeckett
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Posted: Mon, 2004-11-15 18:03

How can we push this feature?

 
fryfrog

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Posted: Mon, 2004-11-15 23:30

You need to setup an account with shutterfly, which I believe costs something like $500 bucks. Of course, you also need to have something that people will buy prints of. You are right though, you simply need to edit the files themselves and fill in what ever values they set you up with.

I doubt this "feature" will ever make it in as a real, configurable feature because of its extremely limited use. There aren't many people who make enough money from their gallery to offset the $500+ setup fee from shutterfly.

 
SamBeckett
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Posted: Tue, 2004-11-16 05:25

Who do we need to email at shutterfly to do this? And what percent per picture printed $ do you make? (if the guys at Gallery would tell us)

 
floridave
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Posted: Tue, 2004-11-16 05:54

I am sure you can find a contact for sutterfly @ http://www.shutterfly.com/
Have you looked? The commission structure is right on the web site.

I know the Gallery forums are good but do we need to do shutterfly support as well?

 
fryfrog

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Posted: Tue, 2004-11-16 08:02

Also, I think if you read the docs you will find that gallery makes a pretty small amount per picture sold through shutterfly, maybe something like a few cents per print.

 
SamBeckett
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Posted: Tue, 2004-11-16 19:56

a few cents per print is a lot. think about it.

 
fryfrog

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Posted: Wed, 2004-11-17 04:18

I have 5,000 images in my gallery and have only EVER ordered about 5 prints. I think you might be over-estimating it a little bit. If everyone who has a gallery had someone order prints through the service, you may be talking 2 or 3 grand. If you think about it... thats not very much, is it?

Now, if your lively hood is selling images and people would routinely buy images from you through fotoaccess, then by all means take the setup fee for $500 and roll with it.

What's the point?

 
SamBeckett
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Posted: Thu, 2004-11-18 20:03

why dont we find how much gallery is earning via shutter fly.

then we can tell if this is worth while

i get 500,000 hits a day to my gallery, if 10 people would order prints that would be $1 per day, 300$ per year for doing nuthing.

 
fryfrog

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Posted: Fri, 2004-11-19 01:16

I don't know how much shutterfly earns, but I do know that from affiliate referels, donations and shutterfly stuff they earn enough in a year or two to buy a $2-$4 grand server and keep it up to date. I suspect that it is mostly via the affiliate program though.

Do you really think 10 people are ordering 10 prints a day on your site from shutterfly? I imagine it would be pretty easy to add something to the code that sends an image to shutterfly to log them. Of course, it wouldn't be 100% accurate, but it would be close. I know that no one orders any from mine, in fact the only reason I have it enabled is so that I can order tham for myself.

If you want to earn money from people ordering prints, do it! There have been instructions for doing it on the forums before, and the devs don't make it a secret that they earn a little bit from a few of the print services. They don't even hide the fact that the values are hard coded in gallery and/or that they are pretty easy to change. The problem is, most of the photo print service "affiliate" type programs are ridiculously expensive to sign up for. A $500 sign up fee is retarded, if you earn $1 / day, it would take you a year and a half simply to recover the sign up fee!

 
SamBeckett
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Posted: Fri, 2004-11-19 22:37

"There have been instructions for doing it on the forums before"

can you point me to them, I couldn't find them.
thanks!

 
fryfrog

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Posted: Sat, 2004-11-20 06:35

I would suggest looking in view_photo.php, perhaps around the area below. I think you will need to find out how their affiliate program works, I am not sure which portions below you would need to alter. I suspect "gallery" and "GALL" and maybe "C4PP" at the least. In the area, I think you can also find the method that is used for the other print services. It was easier to look at the code than search the forums :)

I don't see any affiliate program for the other print services though.

<form name="sflyc4p" action="http://www.shutterfly.com/c4p/UpdateCart.jsp" method="post">
  <input type=hidden name=addim value="1">
  <input type=hidden name=protocol value="SFP,100">
  <input type=hidden name=pid value="C4PP">
  <input type=hidden name=psid value="GALL">
  <input type=hidden name=referid value="gallery">
  <input type=hidden name=returl value="this-gets-set-by-javascript-in-onClick">
  <input type=hidden name=imraw-1 value="<?php echo $rawImage ?>">
  <input type=hidden name=imrawheight-1 value="<?php echo $imageHeight ?>">
  <input type=hidden name=imrawwidth-1 value="<?php echo $imageWidth ?>">
  <input type=hidden name=imthumb-1 value="<?php echo $thumbImage ?>">
  <?php
     /* Print the caption on back of photo. If no caption,
      * then print the URL to this page. Shutterfly cuts
      * the message off at 80 characters. */
     $imbkprnt = $gallery->album->getCaption($index);
     if (empty($imbkprnt)) {
        $imbkprnt = makeAlbumUrl($gallery->session->albumName, $id);
     }
  ?>
  <input type=hidden name=imbkprnta-1 value="<?php echo strip_tags($imbkprnt) ?>">
</form>
 
zulo

Joined: 2003-01-29
Posts: 4
Posted: Wed, 2005-01-26 22:26

hi
im using shutterfly on www.mypetpicture.com

I paid the fee! But i havent sold any prints, the stats page show 0 visitors and 0 sales, which is wrong cause i have visited the gallery many times from different ips to check and it never counts..ok my site sucks but i know visitors have visited the gallery including me and the counter isnt working and i want to try to find another way of selling my cat pictures..i have some really really nice pics ready that are atleast 100 times better then the best pic i have on the site and i think they can be used in a calendar or something maybe too.. I also mailed them and they answer all my mail until i talk about the stat problem..never got a reply on that one..

 
tbdean

Joined: 2005-02-02
Posts: 1
Posted: Wed, 2005-02-02 18:28
fryfrog wrote:
You need to setup an account with shutterfly, which I believe costs something like $500 bucks.

I don't use Gallery, but I'm hoping you guys can help me out anyhow. The code above is simple enough to be used anywhere, and I have a few sites with self built image galleries.

I contacted ShutterFly and they said Gallery does not make any money from them. They also said there is no way to pay $500 and get an account set up where I can submit pictures by HTTP post. The only way to do it is to manually create portfolios on their site.

I'd rather not duplicate all of my images on both my site, and Shutterflys.

Does anyone have a contact at Shutterfly that will let me pay the $500 and allow me to submit photos via HTTP post from my sites?

Thanks!